Heheh, what timing. Any expectation of a lift in the current races from the old fag's passing, particularly the Foley district, would reveal just how desperate Republicans have become.

To go from being the party whose congressional candidates lose to a dead guy (Ashcroft's infamous loss), to the party that hopes for political gain from a gay guy dying who happens to share similar notoreity with one of their own recently shamed and resigned candidates - that's desperate.

Steve,

I'll tell you the difference. Gerry Studs was a democrat, who didn't ride into congress on a moral high horse, he served like every democrat, to ensure freedom, equality, and non-discrimination for all Americans....not just the majority. Which means he "openly" was elected to congress on the belief that gays have as much right to exist without discrimination and persecution as you do. And in my mind the only thing close to a crime that he committed, was that it took advantage of his position and stature to have sex with a page...a page that these days would not be considered "underage". Personally his judgement was extremely poor...but hardly illegal.

But as for Foley....frankly he's been living a lie. He's suppose to be a member of the homophobic party of morality...which means he has a duty to uphold, and live by the beliefs of his party...no matter how twisted some of those beliefs may be. And the Republican majority has a duty to do the same. The damage that is going to be wraught by the Foley scandal this November, will have nothing to do with the legality of what Foley did...because unless he sexually harrassed some pages...he probably has technically done anything illegal. The damage will be your own party shunning the Republican party because it violated voters trust. Republicans demanded morality on their terms and that was trust the leadership and Foley grossly violated...and has nothing to do with Democrats. The only thing Democrats are guilty of is exposing hypocracy.

Foley always had the option to do what Studds did...basically tell his colleagues to mind their own business and let the voters decide. But Republicans would obviously react completely different to the situation than Democrats. If you support gays as the Democrats do, you learn to live with them. If your a Republican you get rid of them. Have to live with the bed you keep! That's not hypocracy...that's reality.

"I'll tell you the difference. Gerry Studs was a democrat, who didn't ride into congress on a moral high horse, he served like every democrat, to ensure freedom, equality, and non-discrimination for all Americans."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Let me pull this back in from another thread which is now closed, because I want to hear what the rest of the gang actually thinks of the Democratic party:

"The Demoratic ideology as you choose to view it, isn't!"

Then the Democratic Party must have changed radically. While I was a Democrat, working for the party, working for the things I believed in, I was working for unrestricted abortion, gay rights (including, way back in the 70s and 80s, gay marriage--though I was fundamentally opposed to marriage as an institution), redistribution of income and progressive taxation--a.k.a. "tax the rich and the churches," fighting Reagan's foreign policies in Central America and the Middle East, opposing Reagan's conduct of the Cold War, spending less on defense in general, , freedom of speech to include blasphemy, obscenity, and offensiveness of all kinds, keeping prayer out of public schools and all expressions (except progressive ones) of faith out of government, sexual freedom in every capacity, sexual and sexuality education, gun control, complete secular relativism on the part of government at every level, environmentalism, preserving and expanding the rights of criminal defendants, unionizing everything (including the graduate students at our university, an attempt that failed miserably), expanding affirmative action, passing the Equal Rights Amendment…stuff like that.

Now, I didn't get everything I wanted from every Democrat every election cycle, but a person like me could find no home in the Republican party and more often than not was more than welcome in the Democratic Party.

Have things changed?

Kerry,

"tax the ... churches,"

You just made that up.

...fighting Reagan's foreign policies in Central America and the Middle East

Good for you. That the Nicaraguan death squads were backed by our gov't was a shameful chapter in United States history. Now that history is repeating itself in Iraq, why won't you stand up again to fight the death squads?

...

The rest of your list reads like today's laundry list of what conservative would like everybody to think is wrong with libs.

It's been said that most people start out in life as liberals, then something goes terribly, terribly wrong. ;)

Kerry,

I guess you pretty much summed it up, although your negative tone doesn't quite fit. Here's a better way of saying it.

- Democrats fight against the majority dictating its cultural and religious beliefs to the minority.

- Democrats fight against industry and the individual from turning our environment into a universal toilet and trash heap.

- Democrats fight for equal treatment and opportunity for people of all religions, creeds, races, etc. Unforunately for rich white conservatives...that means they are restricted from having and doing anything they damn well please.

- Democrats believe in paying off our bills, not charging the national credit card to infinity like Reagan and Bush

""tax the ... churches," You just made that up."

No, I didn't. It was a very hot idea in my circles for a while. As a matter of fact, it must still be in those circles, because we keep finding it introduced into the statehouse and dying in committee.

But it took them a long time to get the lottery in here, too. They just didn't give up until they got it.

"a universal toilet and trash heap."

PERFECT description of the Dhimmicratic, hate-America, leftist groupthink.

Studds died of botulism - bad meat in the can!

Hee-haw. Happy Halloween to you, RR.

It's almost official:

CODDLING WAR CRIMINALS: BUSH'S OWN IRAQ WAR COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND WITHDRAWL FROM IRAQ

"There'll probably be some things in our report that the administration might not like," [James A. Baker III] said in a television interview last week.

"It's not going to be 'stay the course,' " one participant said. "The bottom line is, [current U.S. policy] isn't working…. There's got to be another way."

The party of corruption keeps on giving:

CODDLING CONSERVATIVE CRIMINALS: FORMER BUSH FDA CHIEF BUSTED FOR TRADING STOCKS HE REGULATED

This guy is such an imbecile, it's a wonder (and really no wonder at all) that the (Republican-controlled) Senate approved his nomination.

Look, Kerry, in Iraq even Christians aren't safe from the un-civil war. What needs to change for a turn-around? Or is the populace just following the example set for them by the occupiers?

Here's an easy prediction: conservatives will sit on their thumbs until their commander gives the order for a change in Iraq. And he won't do that (he's got no ideas of his own), until Baker gives the word of the war commission.

Once that happens, will conservatives join in and agree with their president? Group-think, as usual? Or will conservatives stick to their guns (pun intended) and demand that every last "terrorist" in Iraq be killed off before we depart?

Kerry, Lisa

Here's a question I've asked in the past, but which you both seemed to avoid. So I will ask it directly. I would be curious what your responses are.

Which method do you believe is most prudent when it comes to running a government that is fiscally sound. Please rank them, from most prudent to least prudent.

1. Tax and Spend 2. Spend, Lower Taxes and Go into Debt 3. Lower Taxes and Cut Spending

Good luck getting an honest answer, ahmanrah.

Ooh, look!

CODDLING CORRUPT REPUBLICANS: CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION REVEALS CONVICTED REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN RANDY CUNNINGHAM FUNNELED $70 MILLION IN GOV'T BUSINESS TO PALS

Aww, but they was fightin' terrorism. Just like corrupt Chairman Cheney and Haliburton. Nice timing - right before the election. Every little bit helps.

Man, Iraq is fucked - and the U.S. did the fucking. Now they're removing the top police leaders in order to try and halt the death squads that have deeply infiltrated the police forces. This is the reality created by bloodthirsty Republicans - you've unleashed a most uncivil war.

p(u)d the glee with which you post alleged bad news for America exposes the traitorous, sad, bitter, brittle, dark-hearted empty vessel we always knew you were. Your kind are a blight on this great country and one it's up to real Americans to eliminate

I'll say a prayer for you as I empty my carbine.