Polls are so liberal. This is my sense of how they work. The news programs like ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Play any hints of anti Bush comments, and stuffs them in between the news articles. This is what the people who participate in the polls see and their opinions are influenced, by the liberal news coverage.

I kept checking in with CNN to see other perspectives of this disaster, and to many times I would be apalled by the comments blaming President Bush with Email coverage, man in the street coverage, and the likes and it was so unfair.

I did not see any coverage from CNN on how The local government mismanaged their assets. or defend what was right with what Bush had done.

One time CNN was covering a live report about what was going on and it cut away because it was not supporting the anti Bush retoric that had just been played.

The only way to get real information is find some at Fox News Listen to the actual interviews, and speeches of those who are in the know, and read the internet News and blogs, and participate in the discussions.

It really makes me sick to the stomach to see the news agencies who are suppose to provide us with the real information, Filter that information to Anti Bush, and Anti Coservative. But they will give top credence to anything pro liberals.

People with no electricity were not asked, meaning those who bore the brunt of Katrina did not get a chance to take the poll.

They would have some pretty strong words for W.

Um Yeah you screaming liberal idiot.

Well that is my tag line for you folks, but you really are an idiot, screaming or liberal doesn't matter

You have a good chance to get good real information here but all you want to do is spout off with your liberal trash. You are not even original in thought, you just repeat the liberal mantra of lies. I've ignored your other unintelligible comments, because I got tired of commenting to liberal ignorance. The reason that you may be so ignorant, is because you want a government to do everything for you. Your social causes are going to get beaten back, and than you will have to get off welfare and get a real job.

Funny, a mouth breathing knuckle dragging rushbot is trying to zing me.

Go crawl back under your rock turd.

Oh and continue supporting President Nero.

I've seen very conservative people very critical of Bush on the handling of aiding those in new orleans after Katrina and the dams breaking.

The New Hampshire Times Union blasted him. Tony Blankley said there's no getting around the fact that the response was terrible. Pat Buchanan blasted him (though he's been a critic of Bush in the past).

It's not just "screaming liberals" criticizing bush. It's people taking an honest assessment of what happened.

Here is my take from watching and listening. The Hurricane came through Florida Increased intensity in the gulf upwards to a Category 5. The Hurricane expected to hit New Orleans. Warnings went out Bush was involved in warning New Orleans to evacuate, Because He was advised of the severity of a catigory 5 on New Orleans. The mayor was calling for the emergency evacuation on the radio and television The Governor was involved with these warnings. There was no effort to provide evacuation transportation by authorities as prescribed in their Emergency preparedness Manuals. Hundreds of school Busses left in the flood areas. Bush declared the region to be a disaster area to allow the emergency network to go to work and be ready. Hurricane Came and turned full force into Mississippi. The Hurricane covered from Florida to Texas. Largest ever scene to hit this area. Mississippi responded and went to work saving their people, New Orleans Mayor I don't know where he was but I never saw him in the news. The Governor Told rescuers not to go into the superdom because it was unsafe and they were going to evacuate. No water or supplies sent in to the victims. Fox News was announcing the tragedy of the people not having any supplies. New Orleans official said they were going to respond, but did not for 3 days. And there was no attempts of evacuations of the superdom. You Screaming Liberals on CNN, NBC, CBS Blaming President Bush. No mention that Mississippi being hit the hardest and taking care of their problems with the assets Provided for by FEMA. Bush expected the local and state networks of Louisiana, to be responding as prescribed in there emergency Preparedness plans. The Governor Came onto the news and Cried SOS, We are dying Bushed realized that New Orleans And the Governor Of Louisiana were performing poorly, and the poor democrats needed his help. Bush came Kicked ass and got the job moving. and then there was real relief provided to the people. Bush The inelegant person that he was, did not publicly point fingers at what fell apart. he totally avoided that issue in his explanation. Any faults in all of this was not anything doing with President George Bush, who the screaming liberals blame for everything like the hurricane itself due to Global Warming, Being on vacation, being late to show up. He did not need to come in and do the job, only when he discovered that there was a bunch of stupid idiots, who cannot do anything for themselves, needed higher level government to do it all for them. This is a huge Disaster, you idiots, It took President Clinton a week to get FEMA into Florida for the after math of Hurricane Andrews.

P.S. I have complete compassion to those who are suffering in this terrible tragedy. I have already written a check to the Red Cross, and plan to donate more when I see where the donations are going to be best used. My intent that it is not going to be to a liberal organization with fat checks to upper management who primary objective is to cry for a cause so they can have more money for themselves and provide a smaller percentage to the actual cause. I believe that will be to the Clinton/ Bush effort to provide maximum relief to people who really can use the extra help. But I have zero compassion to screaming liberal idiots, who want to turn this tragedy into a political football. I see that President Bush has performed admirably and should be respected, because the man will do the best that he can for us.

Didnt I already tell you to STFU & GBTW?

W and the Federal Government made a feeble dismal response.

It was not all the locals fault no matter how much you try to pass the buck.

They could have done more but they have nowhere near the amount of power and control W and the Feds do.

Now stop repeating what your masters told you to and try cracking open a book, and listen to some classical music or prog rock instead of Rush, that shit will rot your brain.

BTW Dig, since you seem to have the intellectual awareness of a common garden slug...

Try to avoid the "personal responsibility" con meme.

When you use it in conjunction with National Disasters and the elderly and infirm it will make you no converts.

Um Yeah you screaming liberal idiot.

Well that is my tag line for you folks, but you really are an idiot, screaming or liberal doesn't matter

SJDigger--

Explain this litany of FEMA failures-- http://femafailures.blogspot.com/

And remember who appointed Brown to head FEMA. (BUSH)

Surely he knew that Brown had no previous experience in emergency management.

Um, Aaron, you have an odd sense of logic.

When a disaster of this magnitude hits, everyone, and I mean everyone down to the most hardened anti-Bush partisan, wants to rally around their government - trusting that our leadership won't fail in a time of need.

What happened after 9/11? After the start of the first Gulf War? After hurricane Andrew? Hell, even after the Three Mile Island accident? We saw a huge upsurge in support for our president, and trusted in the federal government to handle things properly.

And here you are, trying to spin mediocre polls claiming a victory for Bush. I'm sorry, but you're sounding incredibly pathetic to me.

frank...don't be a loon. anti-Bush is as anti-Bush does.....and y'all cannot be not-anti-Bush.

Good to see that UY STILL cannot add anything to a discussion other than lame ad hominems.

Polls shmolls...third form of lies....right after "lies" and "damned lies".

Thomas Sowell

As allways, astoundingly intelligent and observant.

Oops. Had an extra quotation mark at the end.

Let's try again.

Huh. No, wait, I was missing a quotation mark at the beginning. I'm not trying again. Damn holiday weekend Tuesday mornings.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20050906.shtml

Let's be honest my dear right wing friends... Bush is to blame for the misery in New Orleans. And I will tell you why. If this guy would have been honest he would have said the following:

"I am so sorry people of New Orleans, but I decided to cut spending on FEMA. I also cut spending on the funds for the environmental program designed to rebuild the bayous (swamps) around New Orleans in order to protect the city. I got red dots in my neck when I heard the word environment, I just had to cut spending on that program. Instead I gave you a wonderful war in Iraq which costs you 186 million dollar a day. That means one day of fighting in Iraq costs about as much as it would have cost to upgrade the levees around your cities. But you know I am an nitwit and I just mess up all the time. What can I do? And of course I have to be very, very honest here. You fooks are all black, if these were white brothers we're talking about I would have sent my army over there in a second."

I guess you disagree with me, but I expect nothing less from you. You would defend this looser with no heart in every possible scenario. Keep on doing that, the truth is obviously of no importance to you!

Um....poppie....you DO know that the break in teh 17th St. levee was in an already improved, as in they already built up this section, part of the levee system don't you? No? You'Re not gonna tell me you didn't hear that one are you? You think the bayous were gonna save the city from Lake Pontchartrain? You think the already improved levees would do the same? This is classic "Mother Nature" being the bitch she is.

Of COURSE you do....of course, you're wrong.....but if all you can do is create a false quote from the POTUS to prove your non-point....well, that's all you got.

Sarge, you moron, the levees around New Orleans were built to handle Category 3 storms, everybody knows that. I don't care if they did a little maintenance, they should have built levees that could have handled Category 5 storms and no levee around New Orleans was able to do that.

The experts - and obviously you are not one of them - all say the swamps around the city have a positive effect on protecting the city from hurricanes. The reason is simple, once the hurricane hits land the trees take a lot of heat, but they also make the storm loose a lot of it's strenght. Man, why are you lying?? You're really a dumb Bush supporter who doesn't care about the truth. Read man, do a little research!! Retired Lieut. General Robert Flowers of the U.S Army Corps of Engineers himself said the Corps had been pushing for years for Category 5 protection! I bet you know all this, but go through a lot effort to protect that no good Texan redneck in the White House. You're just like him. You don't care man. Bush needs all the money to fight his illegal wars. The people of New Orleans paid the price.

Mother Nature can be a bitch. I know that, but we can do a lot to minimize damage and the Bush administration just didn't care. Also we can do a lot to help people after such a disaster, but the Bush administration didn't take this disaster seriously at first. It was only after the whole nation called it a national tragedy and a disgrace, Georgie decided to do something. This is just sick you know, very sick.

Nice ad hominems. "Did a little work"? Good to see you don't have facts to bolster that lie. Good, good...call me a liar without actually, you know, pointing at my lie so that I can shove the truth up your ass far enough for it to MAYBE hit your brain...but it won't have to travel THAT far to hit your brain.

Nice rant though. I think you forgot to mention Hally-burton and WalMart. EXACTLY what part of the "break being on a part of the levee system that was recently upgraded" do you not understand?

As for your baseless accusations of my care-factor....fuck off pathetic child. If THAT's all you got to do today....make lame ad hominems towards people you don't know, kiss my ass when you get done ranting.

What was the N.O. area ACE budget in '04 again? $409 million?

Here's a little hint....take a look at the local level.

Of course, a democrat would've already solved everyone's problems by now.

[[frank...don't be a loon. anti-Bush is as anti-Bush does.....and y'all cannot be not-anti-Bush.

Good to see that UY STILL cannot add anything to a discussion other than lame ad hominems.

Polls shmolls...third form of lies....right after "lies" and "damned lies".]]

Sarge, my comment is exactly relevent to this post, which is equating below-50% approval rating and trying to claim this at a plus for the president. I'm sorry, but that is entirely unprecedented for a disaster. The natural inclination is to rally support until things improve.

Why is it you never even support your own purported position, you just "me too" the other right-wing viewpoints posted on this site?

>>Polls shmolls...third form of lies....right after "lies" and "damned lies".

Retarded?

Ah yes...UY the great that knows nothing of statistics just has nothing to say other than the usual ad hominem. Never change....ever. Guess I gotta spell it out every damned time for the idiot. THREE...FORMS...OF...LIES. LIES...DAMNED LIES....AND......STATICSTICS. Polls are statistics. YOU do the math, if you can. Or are you retarded?

Gee frank....this is also an unprecedented disaster. Predictable as a "maybe"...sure, but unprecedented nonetheless. AND I don't give a shit what polls have ever said, being the 3rd form of lie.....unless you want to be part of the 13% that blame Bush for this.

Why is it you never even support your own purported position, you just "me too" the other right-wing viewpoints posted on this site?

Nice bit of asinine thinking. Lemme know when you can find a position of mine that I don't even support and then you can claim tripe like that. Lemme know when you've jumped off the 13%-blame-Bush bandwagon and then you can attempt to make the other claim. Wait a minute....I get it. I disagree with you so I cannot be free-thinking for myself. I HAVE to be following everyone else. That's GOTTA be what it is.

Take a look in the mirror....or the 3 fingers pointing back at you.

sarge,

Let's be very clear. Do you really believe the levees around New Orleans could handle a Category 5 storm or are you just lying to me. Either way it's wrong. It is obvious they couldn't handle a Category 5 storm. They we're not designed for that and the maintenance you were reffering to was not an upgrade to Category 5 storm protection. My question is did you know that and lied to me, or are you just dumb?

Democrats would not have been able to prevent this tragedy, but I bet a president with a heart, Republican or Democrat, would have been much better in handling the aftermath. Beside that, the democrats were spending money on the protection of New Orleans. The Bush administration cut spending on that. What is wrong with you Sarge? Don't you see how evil people like Rove and Cheney are? They have no interest in the people. For them this is all about power and money.

I am sorry about judging your "care-factor". I shouldn't have done that.

poppie...nice try with calling me a liar but I choose my words carefully so....fuck off whining asshole...and the facts are not with your argument. Back in 1996, the decision was made to shore up the region to only pass a Cat3 storm based on a cost analysis of the project (who was the POTUS that signed off on that one again?)....your beloved adultering Democrat signed off on that budget that the House ways and means came up with, so you can take your Bush bashing and shove 'em up your ass with the rest of your illogical thinking concerning the cutting of any budgets for the NOLA projects. What part of "the project was only for a Cat 3 hurricane" do you now not understand?

You forgot to mention Enron and Hallyburton in your list of evil. BTW, a subsidiary of the evil HAlly-burton (KBR or something like that) just got a contract for rebuilding the area. DAMN THAT EVIL CHENEY!!!

And as for your whole "the Dems spent money on the region" bullshit.....that money was spent to make those upgraded Cat3 levees according to the project. Way to go Dems for spending on inadequate protection. Of course, I wouldn't illogically blame the Dems for that because only assholes pull illogical shit like that and think it's an argument.

Did you find that remote control that Bush used to steer the hurricane at all them hated black folks down there yet? I think it was Bush's space-based weapon-platform that did it.

BTW, you DO know how money goes through the government don't you? I mean, your post seems to indicate that Bush has line-item veto over spending (which he doesn't) and that Rove and Cheney have anything to do with the budget (which they don't). It's called Congress and the POTUS, but your illogical ranting is noted.

um yeah, You say that people without electricity weren't asked in this poll? They would most likely bash their own stinkin' mayor. I wasn't polled either. What is your point? I DID see a black woman in the early days of this tragedy carrying a sign that put the blame on Negin. Good for her.

uh poppie, they should have built levees to withstand a cat 5? WHO exactly are you referring to? Previous administrations, including the Clinton administration? Obviously, he didn't "care" either. By the way, I saw quite a few white people in the coverage of this thing, so your ridiculous notion that the President doesn't "care" about blacks is just that,ridiculous.

Gee frank....this is also an unprecedented disaster. Predictable as a "maybe"...sure, but unprecedented nonetheless. AND I don't give a shit what polls have ever said, being the 3rd form of lie.....unless you want to be part of the 13% that blame Bush for this.

You just never know when to stop, do you? Always need the last word, no matter what the content?

Dumb shit, read the TITLE OF THE ARTICLE. It's not me who brought up polls.

Gee frank you just never know when to stop do you? Always need the last word, no matter the LACK of content?

Stupid mother fucker (see, I can use lame ad hominems too), what part of "polls are statistical lies" do you not understand? You like your nice "liberally-weighted" push-polls, don't you? Oopsie...did you miss that polls are lies? Do you see that the poll being looked at closely reesembles the political beakdown of the People, as with most polls concerning politics? No? Did you notice that only 13% on another poll actually put blame on Bush? Of course, it's just another poll that means little.

Ok, fine. Any poll, anywhere, is entirely a liberal conspiracy, all set up to lie to us.

For those of us who have taken a statistics course and understand that there is value when used correctly, here are Bush's approval ratings going back to 2001:

Historical Polls

Before 9/11: 52% After: 88%

Before Katrina: 47% After: 45% (up to 11/05/05)

You're right - public opinion doesn't necessarily follow the "truth." But again, that wasn't the topic of the post, now was it?

Its just a saying Marge.

Quit acting like it you know means something.

A properly carried out scientific poll is a valid way of measuring how the American people feel at a given time.

>>unless you want to be part of the 13% that blame Bush for this.

Memory serves me correctly many more blame the feds. So W by proxy.

'Tard.

Gee frankie, looks like yoiu still know nothing about me...aced stats 1 and 2 AND biostats 1 and 2....and I know EXACTLY how polls lie....yes, UY, even those purporting to be true scientific polls lie all the time.

Memory serves you incorrectly...take a look a few thread up and see the poll. Or are THOSE polls the only ones that're lies? Nice try illogically altering a poll to fit your non-argument.

>>and I know EXACTLY how polls lie

So every single for months now has been lying?

Yeah, that's what I said. Every single poll in the history of polls was a lie. I must've said that up there somewhere. Maybe I can find it if I look really hard.

For those that don't know it, once UY steps in, EVERY discussion becomes an UY circle-jerk of nothingness.

Sarge, you have no idea how entertaining you are.

Sarge isn't entertaining, he is enlightening, if you care to be enlightened. You don't. College kids, geez!

Lisa arent you hyper-religous?

You are the opposite of enlightened.

frankie, you have no idea how much I don't give a shit about what you think....especially anything yoiui think of me, for you will be incorrect with every judgement.