This deal reminds me of that famous Pulp Fiction quote by Harvey Keitel: "Well, let's not start sucking each other's dick's quite yet." Sorry if I offend anyone by quoting Winston Wolf, but that quote sums it right up. But in this case, it's too late. They have, they'll continue to and that's exactly what this deal does. Whatever happened to standing firm on the principle of every judge deserves an up or down vote? It's deals like this that make me lose my faith in the ability of our elected leaders to advance a conservative agenda.

"THIS DEAL SUCKS... EVERY NOMINEE DESERVES AN UP-OR-DOWN VOTE!!!"

"It's deals like this that make me lose my faith in the ability of our elected leaders to advance a conservative agenda."

Why dont you start worrying about whats good for America before your conservative agenda?

UY: MY conservative agenda is good for America. It's because of your liberal agenda that this country is going straight down the toilet. And I might add that poll after poll -- and the last presidential election -- prove that the majority of Americans support my conservative agenda. But we have a bunch of Republicans in office who don't have the balls to act on their mandate.

It's because of your liberal agenda that this country is going straight down the toilet.

Under Clinton we had relative peace and prosperity and a balanced budget.

Under W we have war one of which was based on lies.

Over 1,500 American Soldiers dead, thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians dead.

A crushing deficit.

Even abortions were down under Clinton and spiked under W.

Etcetera etcetera.

And I might add that poll after poll

Thats a lie.

and the last presidential election

The slimmest of majorities, dont hurt yourself patting yourself on the back.

But what else would you expect from Lying Lisa?

Republicans are in control and have been for a while now and all she can do is blame Liberals like she has been taught.

I would call you a sheep but sheep are cute and fluffy and at least have some use.

But what else would you expect from Lying Lisa?

Fuck, make that shifty steve.

It's because of your liberal agenda that this country is going straight down the toilet.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

So Steve thinks this country is going down the toilet.

Yet he has not yet figured out that the Republicans are the ones pushing the handle.

None are so blind as those who shall not see.

Anybody stop sobbing their little eyes out long enough to figure out exactly why Republican moderates beat feet on George W. Debt today? Could it be that 2006 is just around the corner and they know a loser when they see one?

Gallup Poll: Bush Approval Mark Nears Low

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/23/bush.poll/index.html

I'm done with the spineless whimps in the Republican Party! I will never,ever vote for a Republican again! Nor will I ever again make a contribution to a Republican candidate.

They make me sick!!!!

UY: Here's some facts to go with your BS:

Peace: Bought by the Reagan military build-up. Lost by the Clinton military tear-down and the Clinton ass-kiss-your-enemy foreign policy.

Prosperity: Brought to you by the tech boom which was in turn brought on by the capitialization provided by Reagan tax cuts. Again lost by Clinton's foolhardy economic policies just in time for Bush in inheret a shitty economy which he turned atound with what? Again tax cuts.

Balanced budget: Liberal BS based on projections. We haven't had a balanced budget except on paper. The balanced budget PROJECTIONS were based on what? Tax revenues from the higher taxes that slowed the ecnonmy in the first place.

Pull your head out of your ass and wake up to facts: Democrats fuck things up and it takes a Republican to come in and fix them. Although the way things are going, not for long because they are starting to become more like the fuck-ups on the other side fo the aisle every day.

McCain needs desperately to GO! RINO's like him know exactly how to be flattered and coddled by the MSM. Just oppose your own party.

Um Yeah, Check out Michelle Malkin's May 22,11:15 blog about the abortion stat lie. Looks like you are "just blaming" republicans, like YOU'VE been taught. But what else would you expect from, dare I say it, Lying Um Yeah?

We haven't had a balanced budget except on paper.

Yes we did.

He even slowed the pace of the national debt and deficit.

Steve wake the fuck up.

. Lost by the Clinton military tear-down and the Clinton ass-kiss-your-enemy foreign policy.

Now thats just stupid, W dropped the ball on 9/11 Steve. Dont try and blame his fuck ups on anyone else.

Republicans cause the fuck ups Steve.

Reagan and W both multiplies their Deficits and National Debts and Clinton was the only one who did anything about it.

UY: Yes! Steve: No. The Clinton Administration left with a surplus and Bush inherited a prosperous economy. The curve started to auger right after GWB got into office. Schwartzenegger rode a wave of deluded popularity caused by an ENRON-instigated false energy crisis caused by their driving up energy costs in Texas-based companies. Hear the tapes. This is Republican Capitalism at its finest. All I can see is the Republicans are good at cheating and lying, fooling the American people into voting for Bush on false promises, theocratic vagaries and hate issues, and starting a war on lies (see the Downing Street Memo if you don't believe it). Then when they get in the real game under the big-league rules they screw up. They're inept. It's just, hand everything over to the rich on a silver platter and eviscerate the poor and middle class. Regarding the compromise. Dems:YES! Repubs: Haaa-haaa!

Sorry to stop your Clinton dick sucking UY.....Clinton tore down the military by cutting training funding (allowed them to be cut) and nominating those that instituted experimental social programs that cut the balls off of the military (SecDef, who appoints the undersecretaries)....and no matter how much you want to obsessively change the subject it has/had nothing to do with 9-11 and W.

"relative peace"....uh...did you happen to miss the 5 terrorist attacks on this country in the 90's? That's sure some "peace"....tell it to the dead.

A PROJECTED surplus is not a surplus and never will be...it's called "wishful thinking".......AND the economy down-turn started in March 2001, under the last fiscal budget of the Clinton year, you know, the '00-'01 budget that had nothing to do with W.....and looooong before any Bush tax-policies had taken effect. Note, that no matter how much UY wants to claim I'm blaming Clinton for this, I'm not blaming Clinton for the recession....but anyone that's blaming Bush for it is deluding themselves with misinformation.

AS FOR THIS TOPIC. No deal. The Republicans should change any Senate rules they can to get what they want (Senates are not bound by teh rules of previous Senates)....you know, start running things like THEY are in the majority. Anyone that thinks the Dems wouldn't change Senate rules to suit their needs hasn't paid attention to their own party when they are running things. That's EXACTLY what they'd do and have done in the past....such as when the DEMOCRATS changed the rules for cloture vote in 1975 to suit their needs (from 67 to 60 votes needed for cloture).....and Teddy "Mary Jo" Kennedy had THIS to say:

"Again, and again, in recent years, the filibuster has been the shame of the Senate and the last resort of special-interest groups. Too often, it has enabled a small minority of the Senate to prevent a strong majority from working its will and serving the public interest."

Screw 'em...change the rules if they can and leave the Dems to do whatever they feel they need to (whine and roll around on the floor in a tantrum).....and then see how it turns out in '06.

Sarge, if Clinton "cut the balls out of the military" how did it defeat the Taliban in record time and very few casualties working on a military built under Clinton's budgets? Remember, you can't turn a military around overnight. The invasion of Afghanistan happened under a military that was, like it or not, most directly influence by Clinton's budgets and politices than anyone else's. Saying that Clinton "Cut the balls" out of it is an insult to the fine men and women who drove the Taliban out of power in about three weeks.

Leave it to Um Yeah to start an argument over a hyperbolic metaphor.

What the hell does the surplus, projected or otherwise, under Clinton's administration a decade ago have to do with the argument over judicial fillibusters today?

One more Um Yeah distraction tactic, and sadly it seems to have again payed off.

...how did it defeat the Taliban......truly spoken by someone that isn't in the combat arms....we kick ass when we need to regardless of how low morale is, how many sensitivity training classes we're forced to go through, how many morale-boosting programs are cut, how many EPA regulations stop us from training, how many peace-keeping missions prevent us from training with our heavy equipment and keep us from our families, how little money we receive for "expendibles" such as ammo and fuel, how unserviceable our equipment is, how many Sarge's leave, how many weenies tell us we can't swear at our subordinates, how many mountains of garbage are sorted through for recycleables, how many countries we have to baby-sit beyond the 6 months promised because they can't take care of themselves, regardless of how many times Drill Sergeant have to go in front of the Congress to explain their harsh (read: NORMAL) treatment of trainees....AND ON AND ON AD INFINITUM. Those were Clinton's appointees effects on the military.....and we still kick ass when needed to, but that doesn't mean the military WAS NOT worse at the end of the 90's than at the beginning...when Clinton took control of 'em. I ws there, I lived it....and dinks like UY use it as a punchline in some horrible liberal joke-fest because he can't take Clinton's dick out of his mouth long enough to see that one fact.

Not to mention that I'm not talking about "war"....just the state of the military in '92 compared to that in '00.....but what military did the Taliban have....er....NONE? Ever looked at a "real" Arab militry and wonder why they suck? Just think NCO Corps...something they lack, and you'll have your answer. Even our ball-less military (don't misinterpret that to mean that the individuals don't have balls...but numerous bullshit programs instituted under Clinton, as I have listed, tries and in some cases succeeds in making a superb military into a "good" one....as a whole)...yet, even our good military can kick the shit out of any other military in the world. ....but good job at not only missing that point, but also twisting that point to mean that I'm insulting the troops.

As for the topic, something that UY can't comment on......Frist should just say "It seems that 14 Senators have made a non-binding deal.....that applies to neither the Senate, nor ME....so the first nomination of ALL of Bush's nominees to go to the floor will be....." Play like you're the MAJORITY LEADER.

Sarge, you advice to Frist won't work. Sure he can SAY that the deal ins't binding on him, but if the senators vote that way, it is binding and there isn't anything he can do about it. Without the votes for the Nuclear Option, Frist is impotent on this issue. It becomes a hollow threat and he knows it.

....IF the Senators vote that way. However, these particular Senators have really done nothing other than an agreement full of "outs"....that's not even binding amongst themselves. Note that Sen. Boxer has already said that a nomination for the Supreme Court, by default, falls under the "extraordinary circumstances" clause built in so that the Dems can ignore this agreement in the near future when Rhenquist retires....thus they can feel free to filibuster anyone they choose at any time they choose by claiming some sort of "extraordinary circumstance". It's my belief that some of these Republican senators did this so that they wouldn't have to take a stand.....being so close to the '06 elections that they're gonna rely on, being Class I senators....like Chafee, Snow, and DeWine. I say force the issue and make 'em take a stand that will be forever saved in the Senate voting record. Since when should I take the word of a politician?

Hey Sarge perhaps when you stop performing a Dirty Sanchez with Dumbya or if you had any inclination to stop W and crew performing a Boston Steamer on America you could talk.

Clinton tore down the military by cutting training funding

Clintons military budget came very close to matching Bush the firsts last budget and Bush II first.

But keep blaming Democrats like you were told to Marge.

.tell it to the dead.

The number of dead under W are easily what a few hundred times the dead under Clinton.

Dont forget Reagan and the barracks bombing either.

So if Billy Clinton did bad things, does that make Georgie's bad things OK?

The level of debate here is puerile.

http://theologica.blogspot.com/2004/10/prof-stassen-responds.html

Lying Lisa I played follow the links and I came up with this.

When Michelle Malkin says they are lying she means some of the data is faulty and the premise makes wingnuts sad.

Other than that the numbers are still correct, Abortions were down under Clinton.

"When Michelle Malkin says they are lying she means some of the data is faulty and the premise makes wingnuts sad."

So, let me get this straight. When Michelle Malkin says they are lying, it is because they have used incorrect data and fallacies to come to a conclusion which just so happens to support a pre-concieved notion that follows stictly partisan lines.

In other words, When Michelle Malkin says they are lying, she means they are lying?

Budget SIZE has nothing to do with where the money goes dipfuck.....and it DID NOT go for training purposes. Nice try with misinformation.

But keep blaming Democrats like you were told to Marge. Here we have LIE #1....not only am I not "blaming Democrats" for ANYTHING...but I've also not been told by ANYONE to "blame Democrats" for ANYTHING....it's called free expression of WHAT I LIVED THROUGH idiot.......and you did not because you're too much of a pussy to actually serve your country and would rather live off of others service...maybe if you've actually lived through something in your life, you'd understand...but I doubt it.

Concerning "relative peace" (what was falsely claimed to have happened in the 90's by YOU)...tell it to those that died in the 5 attacks on this country during Clinton's term. Don't like that sad fact....illogically try to change the subject to Bush or Reagan....Billy could never be blamed for anything. Unlike you and your need to fulfill your obsessions...I don't "blame" Clinton for anything other than what happened to the military through everything that I've laid out that you've chosen to ignore. You, however, are a one-trick poney....blame Republicans, and only Republicans...even when they're not in charge...it's all their fault. Well....the state of the military in 2000 had NOTHING to do with Republicans.

Blame, blame, blame.....and lie (as I've pointed out your latest).

Take a math course moron....if you are gonna have your "fun" through pissing on the dead by claiming that the current KIA number is a couple hundred times of those that died during Clinton's term (notice, unlike YOUR immature ass, I don't "blame" Clinton for them) in the 5 attacks on this country....there would have to be, AT MOST 7 to 8 deaths in the 5 attacks. Why don't you use some of your asinine math skills and add up the number that died at the Kobar Towers, the WTC in '93, the 2 embassies in Africa, and the USS Cole......and I don't even know the real numbers....but they're gonna be quite a few more than you claim with your substandard math.

Go ahead....keep on talking about the military that you don't know anything about....it's almost funny...but quite sad. Just admit that you're completely ignorant of everything military related...especially what happened IN the military in the 90's...and everyone can go on there way......or change the subject to Bush I bush II and Reagan.

Budget SIZE has nothing to do with where the money goes dipfuck

Sure.......

Keep telling yourself that.

it is because they have used incorrect data and fallacies to come to a conclusion

Some of their data was faulty which is what you would expect from data collected different ways from 16 states, the premise that Abortion did go down was correct.

the dead by claiming that the current KIA number is a couple hundred times of

Im counting Civilians as well.

They are just collateral damage to you however.

First world trade attack/six

USS Cole/Seventeen

Khobar Towers/Nineteen

US embassies/Twelve

So 54 deaths.

Under W we have WTC 2,752

And American Soldiers deaths in Iraq 1644 many from terrorist attacks.

Iraqi civilian death count estimate ranges from 10 of thousands to a hundred thousand

..Billy could never be blamed for anything

Um no you can go ahead and blame that whole turtle thing on him, im cool with that.

even when they're not in charge

I dont recall ever doing that.

Are you trying to claim Republicans arent in power right now?

BTW you know that Clinton gets blamed by you righties for 9/11 and Ruby Ridge?

Man wasnt even president then.

BTW the whole Pat Tillman "They lied about his death" fiasco has been news lately.

Are you as mad as I am?

but anyone that's blaming Bush for it is deluding themselves with misinformation.

Hey bedwetter, how about the deficit?

Once again your illogic has failed you. The RECESSION that started in March of '01 (what I was talking about when I said what you quoted out of context) had nothing to do with the defecits that followed LATER and was still on Clinton's last fiscal year....you know, BEFORE Bush had any economic policies that could effect the economy....ignorant ass.

Does anyone else look at the jumbles of quoted phrases and one-liner comments and make NO SENSE of any of it. Talk about jumping all over the place. It might help if UY actually separated the out of context quoted phrases with his one-liners (you know, like with italics of block-quotes), but I don't think it'll make any sense even after that because of the jumping around. There's clearly no train of thought there....and the only thing I DO see is that still...UY blames Bush for every ill in the world and ignores the multiple reasons as to exactly how Bill Clinton's military was worse at the end of the 90's after his appointees got ahold of it and started social experiments in it.........and no matter how much you want it to be UY, the SIZE of a budget means nothing when looking at where the money goes and where it does not go. Raytheon got billions for the generation 4 and generation 5 missiles (good ole Teddy hypocritically in the pocket of BIG BUSINESS), the troops got their training funding cut.....mostly expendibles like ammo, and all fuels (diesel and helo fuel).

Quoting 6 words without the context is not going to get you anywhere....except maybe a position at Newsweek.

It's called ADD and there's good drugs and non-drug programs to counter the effects of it.

Marge I called you out on how you sidestepped the whole entire deficit issue.

Try harder Marge.

Your whole entire world view is crumbling before my truth and logic.

54 deaths under Clinton. Thousand upon Thousands under W.

They lied about Pat Tillmans death arent you mad at all?

Dumbass....you "called me out on the deficit", by using something I said about WHEN THE RECESSION STARTED.....which has/had nothing to do with the defecit, which is an entirely different topic. Nice illogical try that's called a RED HERRING....so any time you claim to have logic, just think that you have no clue what the fuck logic really is (NO, THE RAMBLINGS BETWEEN YOUR EARS ARE NOT LOGIC, AS THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES OF LOGIC). Let's see....3 one liners....3 different subjects. Got ADD? Unlike your immature ass, I don't ascribe emotions to everything that happens. It was wrong and I'm disappointed that they lied about Pat Tillman's death....but I'm not "angry" about it because that involves the amygdala in the left hippocampus....and unlike your overactive amygdala, mine works just as it's supposed to.

BTW, I'm just as disappointed at you consistantly using the deaths of thousands of people as a punchline in a non-argument.

James Knox Polk : 13,000 KIA, Mexican War.

Abraham Lincoln : 497,821 KIA, Civil War.

William McKinley : 11,000 KIA, Spanish-American War.

Woodrow Wilson : 116,000 KIA, WWI.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt : 406,000 KIA, WWII.

Harry S. Truman : 55,000 KIA, Korean War.

Lyndon Baines Johnson : 109,000 KIA, Vietnam War.

Bloody HORRIBLE presidents, one and all. Count yourself lucky, Um Yeah.

.you "called me out on the deficit", by using something I said about WHEN THE RECESSION STARTED.

I did talk about the deficit in my first few posts. that what you were ignoring Marge.

Sorry...I clearly missed the red herring one-liner phrase among the rest of the red herring one-liner phrases......yes, I subconsciously ignored it because it had nothing to do with the topic of discussion. Guess I should remove my logic filters.

Notice....I also ignored the abortion issue that you mentioned that is ALSO irrelevant to the discussion at hand....AND the "last election" that you brought up.

It's called...keeping on-topic, something you cannot do as proven by your 100% inability to comment on the topic of the "New Deal" or Senate confirmations.

You really do not give a shit about the deficit? It should be important to you especially considering how W and Reagan caused theirs to raise so much.

Wow...still putting words in my mouth? When have I ever said that I don't give a shit about the defecit? Never have, never will. I have not commented on the defecit on this thread about the "deal" that was just reached in the Senate by some misguided fools that are up for re-election next year or are priming themselves for a POTUS run? Could it possibly be that the defecit has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS TOPIC?

Keep on with the lies.....much easier than actually addressing the topic.

When have I ever said that I don't give a shit about the defecit?

You certainly dont seem to care about the deficit.

I brought it up and you decided to make a rebuttal to my comments while completely trying to avoid that little 400lb gorilla.

"seem" "think" "believe"....these things are not the truth, and I've told you in the past that I DO care about the defecit...so stop lying about it already. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS TOPIC.

I get it....if you bring something up...buried in a bunch of off-topic red herrings...and I don't deal with EVERYTHING off-topic that you bring up....then by default, I take the opposite postion as you? Does your neck hurt? All that twisting in the wind MUST take its toll.

Got anything ON-topic? Or is this just another one of your non-arguments?

d I've told you in the past that I DO care about the defecit.

Apparently you dont since you still vote Republican, and when it is brought up you either ignore it or try to downplat it.

Got nothing on-topic to say? I don't recall EVER telling anyone who I vote for here....IF I vote at all, so take your assumptions and stick 'em where your rationality was stuck at birth.

The "defecit" is not the topic of discussion here. Never was and won't be in the near future...got anything on-topic?

...didn't think so.

I don't recall EVER telling anyone who I vote for here

So you voted for Kerry?

Who the fuck are you trying to kid Marjorie?

The "defecit" is not the topic of discussion here.

Well thats good because the "Deficit" is.