If there is any bright side to this entire matter, it's that Terri is now in a far better place for I believe God will take care of her soul for enternity. And, those envolved against here behalf, well, there a day coming for them, called JUDGEMENT DAY!

Every report I heard said it would take a week to 14 days for her to die. Thanks, though, for your expert opinion that she was in good health. That's a pretty relative term when the person can't think.

And nice touch in calling Michael Schiavo a killer. At least Jeb Bush had the decency to recognize that this is a tough situation for him as well. I give him a lot of credit for that.

I hope she rests in peace.

Peace to Terri, and I believe now she truly is.

Whatever your views on this issue, peace to all.

Steve, I believe we started down that slippery slope when abortion was made legal. The devaluation of human life began when the supreme court invented a "privacy" right, so that women could dispose of an inconvient life.

Tom, Can't you hold the sarcasm at this sad time? The fact is that she WAS in good health. How do you know what she could and could not think? Maybe she dreamed. We don't know, it is not an exact science. It is unfortunate that you hold life in such low esteem that if someone is not "perfect", they might as well die. What are your thoughts on the fact that Michael Schiavo wouldn't allow her family to be with her at the very end?

I know she cannot think from medical science. There's a cat scan or MRI that shows her brain stem is flooded with liquid. As I understand it, that's the part of the mind that thinks.

And no, nothing is an exact science, but the rulings in this case are that Terri would not have wanted to be kept alive in this case. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, that's where the story ends. No one is interjecting their value of life (or lack thereof in my case, I guess). I'm respecting the wishes of Terri and her guardian.

There's also been a heinous campaign to smear Michael Schiavo, his girlfriend and his family. Schiavo became a nurse so he could better understand Terri's care. His girlfriend does Terri's laundry. As this story says, he was encourage by the Schindler's to date other women.

I love all these "pro-life" people who threaten the life of Michael, his girlfriend and the judge in the case.

http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/news/nation/11255644.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

The fact of the matter is, you are projecting onto Michael villinous qualities so you can make yourself look better. To call him a murderer is disgusting.

I don't know about him not letting the parents in at the end. Do you have a link to a story about that?

Lisa, Your continued irony no longer amazes me. This is sad. In your request to Tom, regarding sarcasm, did you fail to see any sarcasm in Steve's article? This is a sad time, yes. It is also a time for reflection.

I ask that you think of all the people in situations similar to Michael and Terri Schiavo. They make the same decisions as we write. In your crusade to protect your right to make decisions regarding your death, you are trying to strip away the rights of others. Do you choose to accuse them of murder also?

I do believe in the sanctity of human life. I also believe I have the right to make choices for myself and to assign others to make the choices for me. Terri made choices also and these are hers, and hers alone.

Michael chioces in life are not at issue here, with the exception that he was willing to follow through with Terri's wishes.

Tom,

You need to get the facts. We're in the position of having an innocent dead woman here because people are ingnorant of the facts and every court that reviewed this case only took into account the "facts" George Greer chose to "find". And all of those courts had the audacity to assume that they were superior to any other branch of government. Even though the executive and legislative branches implored the judicial to go back to the beginning in this case, they refused. Here's just one of those facts: Micahel Schiavo, who in most states would have been committing bigamy, coincidentally stopped being the caring nursemaid about the time he got his settlement. At that time, Terri was being sucessfully rehabilitated. That all stopped and she was shoved away to die. Pull your head out of your backside and look at the ENITRE case, not just the "evidence" that supports killing a brain-damaged woman based on heresay and the convenience of her gaurdian. The simple fact of the matter is that, in a life or death situation, we have a DUTY as comppasionate people to find as many of the facts as possible. There was substantial doubt and we killed the woman by slow starvation. Who's next? So much for separate but equal branches of government.

And I forgot to mention that all the money, intended to rehabilitated this woman, and she was being rehabilitated, went towards trying to kill her. From the moment the rehabilitation stopped, this woman never had a chance. Michael saw to that.

Yes, I agree Lisa. We did head down that slippery slope when we began to allow people to kill inconvenient babies. We've just extended the reach of that slippery slope to include those on the other end who we determine to have no worth.

BTW Tom: 14-15 days was the outside that ANYONE could be expected to survive without hydration, which tends to support my assertion that she had to be in pretty damn good physical health to survive to the outside of that time frame. She was not anywhere close to dying on her own and that's why they had to kill her. If she had truly been "on life support" as was the common misconception and one I heard repeated in the media ad nauseum, they would have pulled her off and she would have died shortly thereafter. I just sorry folks like you are blind to the fact that we just killed a woman who would not have ordinarily died. That's called murder.

Steve, I know just about everything there is to know about this case. the case you lay forth against Michael Schiavo is purely circumstantial and would not (and has not) hold (held) up in the US court system. Coincidences mean shit in court. You have to prove intent, and so far no one has been able to show Schiavo's intent it to "off" his wife because she is an inconvenience. This has been ruled on by the institute this country relies on to rule such matters.

In fact, I've seen plenty of evidence that shows he was a loving caretaker to her.

And this case is NOT about judging the worthiness of human life, as the court decisions were based on the ruling that this is what Terri Schiavo would have wanted. I'm, that's just how it is, buddy.

Steve, that's bullshit. every medical report I saw said she was expected to die within a week or two.

And Steve, where do you get your 14-15 day range from? I've seen either 13 or 14 days cited as the amount of time she's been off the tube.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn271.html

Infinitely more articulate then I, and (as usual) he hits it dead-on.

As far as all ye embittered republicans suddenly decrying government intervention, Mr. Sowell puts it very succinctly.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20050324.shtml

Its what she wanted, its what I and basically everyone I have talked to would want.

The only thing right wingers have is an imagined conspiracy between Michael Schiavo, Eveeel Libruls the Courts and probably the Jews (cant have a conspiracy without the Jews right?).

Rest in Peace Terri, you finally can now.

The jews? The jews are the focal point of liberal conspiracy theories. I thought 'neo-cons' were largely synanomous with 'zionists'?

As far as what she wanted, you have absolutely no f***ing way of knowing that. What you want is irrelevant. There can be no more absurd a generalization then to suggest that all people wish to be killed if they find themselves comatose, if that was anywhere near the truth, there would not be a debate about it.

By the way, Um Yeah. Get the damn facts straight. Was she concious or not? Was she practically dead allready, or not???

Rest in peace, you finally can now? She was not resting in peace previously, in your opinion?

To put it in patented UmYeah logistics, (so sue me for copyright infrigment):

AHAHAHA! You admitted she was concious and rationable! And since you didn't say that before, that makes you a liar! LIAR!

Why should we beleive a liar? It's proven that your lying liar mouth spits nothing but deceitful lies.

First of all, all my condelonces to Schindler family, an to all people who fought for her life, (including PME's writers who were always supportive for Terri Schiavo).

It's DEEPLY SAD that in a country where the majority of the people, the people who love Life & freedom, rights & civility and who voted for a president who promotes the Culture of Life; a "Judge" lets a human being to be starved to death as in the worst tyrannies of history.

President Bush once said that judges' responsability is to defend law in order to make a better country and not to make self-interpretations of law. President Bush made his comment in the context of gay marriage, but now it's perfectly clear that his comment applies to the whole american legal system.

Really hope Terri's case is the last one in the world, or at least, the last in the U.S.

Shame on Michael Schiavo and "judges" who promote a Culture of Death.

MJ,

You make two great points:

1. You have no way of knowing that.

2. What you want is irrelevant.

The people who know best of what Terri Schaivo wanted are her family and friends. There was a dispute between family members, it went to court and was settled.

Everyone else should have butted out.

Actually Um Yeah, There were "EVIL LIBERALS" on the Schindler's side. Tom Harkin, Ralph Nader, and Jesse Jackson to name a few. Stop making this out to be a partisan thing. This divided people on both sides of the aisle.

Tom, what I have heard about the family of Terri not being alllowed in at the end is [at this time], Her brother and sister were there and then when it looked like the end, they had to leave. I find that incredibly cruel. Michael Schiavo was married to her for a few short years, and they are her siblings. How could he do that to them?

Where did you hear this, Lisa?

I agree, if that did happen, it would be a cruel thing to do to the brother and sister. But, i find it hard to believe someone would do that.

I heard the same thing....from a CBS interview of a religious figure on the outside. He said that 10 minutes or so prior to the actual death, family member were barred from the room. Don't know whether or not to believe it, but if it's true, that's pretty damned sick and unreasonable.

Sarge, Felos is trying to spin it to say that Bobby Schindler when told to leave the room, said that he wanted to stay[wouldn't anyone?],and because Michael "wanted her death to be peaceful", he said that they couldn't be there. But the only reason that Bobby protested was because he was told to leave. Had he been allowed to stay, he would have just sat there and grieved,perhaps held her. It's his sister, for the love of Pete!!! He would have been disruptive? No. Another cruely on the part of Michael Schiavo.

I'm no scientist, but isn't there a chance she held on so long because of her fat to muscle ratio, and not because she was in "good health"

Rest in Peace, Terri.

Yawn. One less braindead American. I suppose I should cheer-one less vote for Bush.

Americans only cared because she was starved. Fat arrogant fucks are very scared by someone LOSING weight!

Plant this turnip- maybe she'll sprout by spring!

As far as what she wanted, you have absolutely no f***ing way of knowing that.

Yeah because testimony from people who knew her is nothing compared to the power of your imagined conpiracy. I said its what she apparently wanted to not live like that where do you see a problem in what I said.

In case your dementia got the better of you Neo-Cons are the so called Conservatives who actually dont believe in fiscal responsibility or smaller government i.e. pretty much all modern republicans.

This divided people on both sides of the aisle.

Well thats 3 people.

Compared to just how many Conservatives who attempted to make this a political issue?

Mrs. Schiavo’s death is a moral poverty and a legal tragedy. This loss happened because our legal system did not protect the people who need protection most, and that will change.

The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior, but not today.

Today we grieve, we pray, and we hope to God this fate never befalls another. Our thoughts and prayers are with the Schindlers and with Terri Schiavo’s friends in this time of deep sorrow.

From Tome DeLay who by the by yanked the plug on his father.

If any of the Schindler family were allowed in the room with Terri, it would show compassion and tolerance from Michael. I can't say I would have asked Terri's brother to leave the room...just don't know...never been there before? It may seem harsh, but given what he's been through in the last five years with Terri's family, who are we to judge?

Steve, Terri did not last much longer than teh experts were saying. Almost all reports I have read said she could live up to two weeks after the tube was pulled. She lived 13 days.

Tom: Sorry, but I'm just going to have to write you off as just blatantly ignorant on this one -- purposely it seems. We are talking about a human life here, not about what Michael Schiavo had for breakfast the day before yesterday. Just like Greer and basically anyone on the side of death, you pick and choose your facts to suit your bias towards killing this woman. Fact: The physical therapy that was working stopped shortly after Schiavo got his cash. Fact: Schiavo commanded that no therapy be performed for 12 years. Fact: Bone scans at 53 weeks turned up multiple healing fractures on the body of Terri Schiavo. Fact: Schiavo produced the idea that Terri wouldn't want to live this way in 1998 -- eight years after she fell into this state. Fact: It has never been determined why Terri Schiavo fell into a coma. Schiavo has admitted in the past that he thought Terri DIDN'T have an eating disorder. What is not fact: The idea that Terri "wouldn't have wanted to live this way". Live what way? On life support or with a feeding tube. We have no answers to these questions that demanded to be answered and killed a woman on the basis of a dubious assertion.

As to the living without hydration, I dare say I've done a lot more research on this issue than you have, I've probably paid better attention to the media coverage than you have and I've heard numerous Drs. opine that most people can go for weeks without food, but no longer than a little over a couple weeks without water. As I said before, she was on the outside of that range when she died.

Once again Steve you are buying into the idea that Michael Schiavo and the Courts conspired to murder Terri for no reason but they are evil apparently.

As to the living without hydration, I dare say I've done a lot more research on this issue than you have,

What, you actually went without water so long you died?

UY: Have you? We know that you've gone without sustenance long enough that your brain has stopped functioning.

And I'm not buying anything. Do you deny that what I stated above are facts? If you do you are in denial. And, given these facts, it is completely illogical not to investigate further. Maybe Schiavo didn't do anything wrong. But there are enough facts warranting investigation that it was criminal not to sort them out.

Steve, I find the fact that you call myself and others who are not judging those involved in this case as "being on the side of death" (pardon my french) fucking stupid.

Write me off as anything you like.

I'm well aware of the facts you listed. Are you aware that after something like 6 months in a PVS, you're chances of recovery are pretty much nil. The court heard testimony from two others aside from Michael Schiavo saying that Terri did not want to be in a state like the woman she saw in some movie. Unless they were in on some sort of conspiracy, Michael did not make this up.

I've said prior that I don't know how I would react in a similar situation as Michael Schiavo has found himself in. You make a lot of insuations about him with no proof of anything. I'm not going to judge him.

Are you going to judge Tom DeLay for refusing treatment on his brain-damaged father? Is he on the side of death?

Decisions like this happen every day. Are all the families that make similar, tough and heart-wrenching decisions on the side of death? Are you going to judge them too?

Mind your own fucking business and say what you want about me, i don't care.

And, doctors said she would not last more than two weeks. She didn't. You're trying to say she's somehow proving her will to live by dying within the range doctors said she would. I'm mean, that's just stupid.

Steve, you jump on this story at the tail end, see these 'facts" you've tossed out and want to go back and investigate them more. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN LOOKED AT. For the past seven years.

The Shindler's have had that amount of time to prove Michael Schiavo has not been acting on Terri's wishes. They haven't been able to.

Tom:

They haven't been looked at, they've been ignored. There are mountains and mountains of evidence that supports the Schindler's versions of the facts. All of what I stated are facts which can't be interpreted any other way. Additionally, Greer rejected the findings of a guardian ad litem who said that Schiavo's motives were questionable as "biased" without further comment. Greer ignored them, other courts accepted Greer's findings without further investigation even though the other branches of the government compelled them to start at the beginning. And because of this, we just killed a woman. And do you know about the connection between Greer, Felos and the hospice Terri died in?:

www.torontofreepress.com/2005/cover033105.htm

Any one who can dismiss all this is purposely ignorant of the majority of the facts in this case.

BTW, the Dr whose PVS diagnosis Greer accepted is a euthanasia nut on the oreder of Felos and Kevorkian who ALSO has ties to the hospice. You don't know the facts, Tom and the facts were ignored. One pissant little circuit court judge set himself up as judge, jury and executioner and everyone just accepted it.

Tom,

De Lay's Dad was dying. They pulled the LIFE SUPPORT and he croaked. This woman was living and they killed her by starving her to death. To support this is to be on the side of death. In this case, you favor death. Sorry if the truth hurts. And your posts clearly show your ignorance on the matter. Inform yourself.

And speaking of truth here, how about the truth that PVS is misdiagnosed 40% of the time?

And of course the woman didn't last more than two weeks: SHE WAS STARVED AND DEHYDRATED TO DEATH.

Have you?

Well now that you mention it.... no.

But then im not the one claiming to be an "expert" on dehydration.

Do you deny that what I stated above are facts?

Your second "fact" I could not find anywhere, as for the first one the therapy did not work so why continue it? As for the rest of the "Facts" they are nothing but insinuation. So what if Michael did not realize Terri was Bulimic? Lots of things like that are kept secret, she lost a huge amount maybe he just figured she was dieting without knowing the full extent as for the bruises they are consistent with someone who collapsed because of heart failure which Terri did.

Again you have nothing but a half baked conspiracy that doesnt even bother with a motive.

They pulled the LIFE SUPPORT

Under Florida (and well common sense) a feeding tube is life support.

To say a feeding tube isnt because "its just food and water" is like saying a respirator isnt because "its just oxygen".

Steve you have shown nothing but contempt for people who say take government funds to feed their families yet you honestly want us to believe you care now?

Finally! The explitation of Terri Schiavo may be almost over. Her parents made her a pawn in a political football game that shamed the nation. I bet Terri would've been appalled at the horrific display of video and pictures her parents put in the media. They should be ashamed of themselves.

I just heard that the pope is gravely ill and has refused to go back to the hospital. Some close to the pope have said that he is preparing to die.

Are you people prepared to go to the vatican and force the pope to go to the hospital and recieve further treatment? It may save his life - you don't know.

Ya know Russ, I am not on a "crusade" to protect my right to make decisions about my death. I have already taken care of that. As I have said before, the biggest difference between us is that I do believe it is killing unless a person is already dying, or very close to it. You do not. Not always murder, but killing just the same.

Dave, The Pope has everything medically that he needs at the Vatican. He wants to be more comfortable at this time, but he is NOT letting himself die. He has stated recently,and was criticized for it, that he wanted life support measures to be taken on his behalf.

Russ, Is there ANYTHING that you are willing to have an opinion about? YOU call it judging. Never been there before you say? So what? That means you have no clue? It "seems harsh"? It IS harsh!! And cruel , and evil. Get a backbone man!

Nice lib talking points Jesse, hear that on Air America, or was it The Senior Balloon Kennedy?

Lisa, Yes I do have opinions. I don't (at least I try not to) present my opinion as fact. When a person doesn't agree with someone, it's OK to agree to disagree. It's not OK to attack, accuse, and debase.

I do have a backbone. I believe that you and Steve would do well in the Klan. Both of you have plenty of the worlds most marketable commodity, Hatred. When your methods fail in attacking Michael, you attack G. Felos. Who's next?

You don't have final decisions made regarding your death. Why? Because based on your actions here, I have the right to disregard your wishes.

I have seen you, as Steve's cheering section, present your opinion as fact. You have never supported your accusations, and you just present more insults. I know, you refer to other links that have more opinion, accusation and insults.

Yes, you choose to ignore why you accuse Tom of sarcasm, while you and Steve deliver it at will. Catholic; What exactly does it mean? What does your faith/religion say about your actions?

The one fact you choose to ignore, is that Michael Schiavo was willing to carry out the wishes of Terri, his wife. The courts have ruled in his favor. Ruled in favor, by the laws of Fl. and the US. Now what key evidence was not allowed?

Is there ANYTHING I have an opinion on, and willing to state it? Yes; "I think you are a self centered, self-righteous, evil bitch." Now, just for the record, that's opinion, not FACT. But keep talking, I'm sure you will prove me wrong.

PS, ....forgot, narrow minded,.....

Lisa, I was not attacking your faith or religion. I just don't believe you know what your faith calls you to do. If you do, I believe you choose to ignore the message.

Russ, You were doing well calling me names,[which incidently I hadn't done to you],until you had to go and say," just for the record, that's opinion, not fact." You weren't able to just say it without a wimpy qualifier. But you were mistaken in the first place. I was talking about your reluctance to have an opinion about anything without calling it a "judgement". I never said FACT. So,how about that Felos? Hmmm? YOU accuse me of attacking him, have you read excerpts from his book? If you didn't know who the quotes were attributed to, you would think, what a religious nutcase. Come on, admit it. Steve, by the way, was not being sarcastic. He was stating facts and opinion. Sarcasm is very easy to spot. I don't choose to ignore that the court ruled in favor of Michael Schiavo. I simply don't believe that that makes it a TRUE fact. I really wouldn't be welcome in the Klan, for you see, the KKK HATES Catholics as much as they hate Blacks and Jews. So DARN, I can't get in!! [sarcasm].

Opinion: If you think Michael is doing something wrong, then say so.

Judgement: to accuse Michael of Murder.

The farther away from opinion, the closer to judgement you come. It's a short distance.

To act evil, cruel or harsh, doesn't mean we are, it's an action. To continue to act accordingly, well.....and if you see my qualifier as wimpy, then so be it.

I have many opinions and I have choices in how I present them.

Religion is no longer a qualifier in the Klan...it serve to keep the hate stired within.

Russ, I went through 12 years of Catholic education, and go to Mass every Sunday.Don't you dare try to tell me what my religion tells me to do. MY Catholic faith calls me to resist a culture that condones abortion, euthanasia, and a "right to die" culture. At a certain point in time, liberals tried to subvert the orthodox teachings of the Catholic church. Priests and clergy were vilified if they didn't go along with the "new" dogma. Yes, Jesus is about love and redemption. BUT, that does not mean that anything goes, and that a sinner does not need to repent. Since you are not a Catholic, I find it bizarre that you are preaching to me about my religion. I would not presume to do the same to to you. AS far as your little scenario about judgement and opinion. It makes no sense. It sounds like you are saying that if you just say Michael did something "wrong", it is an opinion. But if you dare to label that "something wrong" it is a "judgement". Your point about actions,well, if someone behaves consisently in an evil or corrupt way means that that is WHAT THEY ARE. Duh!!!

Even John Paul II who is conservative believes it is the governments duty to help the less fortunate.

Say that in this country and you are a Commie Librul Pinko.

O.k. Um Yeah, You are a commie librul pinko. Just for you. Lanny Davis, McGovern, Alan Dershowitz, Joe Lieberman, Pat Caddell, Mickey Kaus. Just a few more liberals who oppossed killing Terri.

Liebermans A Liberal now?

Hmmmmmm, are you saying that your action here is what you believe you are called to do?

I wasn't telling you anything, I was asking? Maybe it's your definiition of "resist" that I was questioning? In what manner do you resist?

Yes, a sinner is asked to repent. Does that mean they need to do it the Russ, Lisa ...?, way.

I think it's quite simple. When you go to confession, it's your sins that are discussed. Why complicate life (and I don't think your priest would listen) by discussing Michael Schiavo's sins. The same applies to me.

I still think you are missing a key piece of evidence here. Michael has broken no law.

Lisa : "Dave, The Pope has everything medically that he needs at the Vatican. He wants to be more comfortable at this time, but he is NOT letting himself die. He has stated recently,and was criticized for it, that he wanted life support measures to be taken on his behalf."

I'm SURE that I could find 10 doctors that could disagree with what you said if I wanted. That's the way this slippery slope works when you meddle in someone else's personal affairs, choose an outcome and then try to support it.

No Dave, i actually heard this info on more than one news outlet. I had no idea what the Pope was wanting to do with the situation. What exactly would the 10 drs. be disagreeing with?

Quote: I never thought I'd see the day when a U.S. judge stopped feeding a living American so that they took 14 days to die,' Majority Leader TomL Deay said Thursday.

Why don't you all stop arguing over religion and politics. I'm so sick of it..No matter what religion or political party you belong to gives no justification for a women or anybody for that matter to starve to death..This women was well alive. If Terri could blink her eyes, breath on her own, smile, and her organs were alive and well enough to digest food, means she had brain functions.. Dont' tell me she had no brain functions and her brain was dead. If her brain was dead Terri, couldn't do any of those things. Please people we all know the brain keeps all those functions running.

The doctors and judges are going by a brain scan from 1992. Do they have one 2004 or 2005????????

What a tragic situation. I have held my dying baby in my arms I would have given anything to have him live, so I can really feel where Terris Mom is comming from... but to have a partner whos already moved on sentencing your child to death, would it really have hurt giving her over to her parents?? I dont know all the facts but barring family from her death bed and saying hes having her cremated and not telling her mother who gave her life and raised her or her family where hes placing them??? Makes me seriously question his motives. Sounds like a Hateful man to me. Hope he sleeps well at night!

Jody I belive the last one was 2002 and it got worse not better.

Actually, the scan showed that a significant part of her cerebral cortex was still intact though a larger part of it had atrophied. There are people who have had very large parts of their brain removed and still continued to function as a normal human being.

Jodi, it is the BRAIN STEM that keeps the body functioning..., not the cerebral cortex.

Jody, I am sure he does sleep well at night, because he IS a hateful man.I am sorry about your baby. Take care.

Russ, It is telling that you can find it in your heart to call me an "evil bitch", but you aren't able to call up any similar bad feelings for Michael Schiavo and his esteemed lackey, George Felos.

Johnny, The Brain Stem is still part of the CEREBRAL CORTEX....The Brain Stem - Deep in the Brain, leads to the spinal cord. Its all connected to the CERERAL CORTEX, which controls the lobes and the functions.

Lisa, I have read your comments and innuendo, directed at myself and others. How you choose to see Michael Schiavo is really your business. My "evil bitch" comment was in regard to your comments and actions. Then you follow with another comment (whimpy) as to who you think I am.

I choose to see Michael differently than you do and I believe for good cause. I think you are a very confused person. Your obsession with this case and how you choose to see the world is scary. If you wish to do a step by step walk through this case then I'm willing. To date you haven't supported any of the supposed fact that you have presented. When all this fails you, along with Dr. Bowers begin to drag the attorney through the mud. You believe what you want about Michael and his attorney. When you are in your last minute of your life maybe you will see how wrong you have been. I have seen nothing but evil comments come from you. Do you believe that you are called to be the judge of others? In this judging process you can't stay on a topic long enough to see that you may be wrong. Have you ever considered that some people of the world consider your Catholic religion a "cult" that you are a religious nut case???

I'm still not sure if you even understand what you believe? That is...your faith/religion.

If you go to confession for ten years, to the same preist, and then you discover that he is a child molester and has been for the last twenty years, what happens to the sins (yours) that have been forgiven?

We can spend a lot of time putting other people down. What do we get in return...............??

PS. No, I do not find it in my heart that you are an evil bitch.

Jodi: Your understanding of the basic biology of the brain is quite flawed. The brain stem is not part of the cerebral cortex.

You claim that it's "all connected to the cerebral cortex". This is true, but in the same way that your hand is not your shoulder "because it is connected" the same is true about the brain stem and cortex.

You may wish to read this before attempting another brain surgery:

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/kinser/Structure1.html

Your most basic misunderstanding of brain structures very much dilutes the value of your OPINION posted on 4/2 @ 2:15.

I grow very weary of the underinformed stating their opinion as fact.

Dearest Russ, First and foremost, I am not concerned with what other people say or think about my Roman Catholic religion. It has survived for 2,000 years, thank you. The rest of the christian religions came into existence from the Catholic faith. If my priest were a molester,my sins would still have been forgiven as long as he was an ordained priest. His sins would not change that fact. He is merely the "go-between" myself and God. I think it is funny that you say we are dragging Felos "through the mud". Steve merely quoted him from his own book! He didn't make it up! I am not a "confused person". I see this tragedy very clearly and simply,with moral clarity. You are the one that is all tangled up between secular law and morality. I thought that you said that what a person did was just their actions, and not who they were, so we couldn't judge them for it? Then you say I AM an evil bitch because of my "comments and actions". Sounds like a judgement to me. As to a step by step walk through of the case. Steve and others have already done so, you simply choose to ignore it. What is truly frightening is the view of people that believe it is fine and dandy to take away someone's life because a stranger[judge], decides to believe one person over another. The law! The be all and end all. Well, it is not. Beyond that, what is the height of decadent secularism, is the notion that one should have the right to kill oneself.

Lisa, It has been obvious from the start that we see this tragedy differently.

Have you ever considered that it isn't "killing?" Terri said, "I don't want to live like that, let me die." Terri's parents were refusing to let her die.

It wasn't suppose to be funny. It's sad, that after Terri dies, Steve needs to bring up Felos and that he's a nut case. When you have nothing going for you, and the case is lost, lets dig up some mud. The book that Felos wrote wasn't evidence that's permissible in court.

The judge didn't need to read the book or hear excerpts to make a ruling on the Schiavo case. God didn't need to judge the priest before he forgave your sins. I made it a point to call you an evil bitch, and as you can see it unfold, it does matter to you. You don't like being judged, it isn't right. No, I don't believe you are an evil bitch and it isn't right for me to judge you, because I don't have the authority to do so. You have levied some heavy-duty comments and labels on Michael and his attorney, even stating that it's unforgivable. I'm still not sure how you see that you are entitled to do so.

In regard to Steve doing a step by step process through this case, presenting what you call facts, to date I have missed it. I'm not sure why you chose to pass the baton to Steve. Where are your facts, to date it's all distorted rumor and hearsay.

It's sad that you see others that disagree with you as secular and that you have take a moral "high ground" position. You, and the people who see this case as you do are in the minority, not the moral minority, just the minority.

you have had the facts presented to you over and over. You prefer to call them hearsay and rumour. What WAS hearsay was Michael Schiavo and family's testimony as to what Terri wanted in the event she was in this condition. It matters not to me that you call me names. If you meant it, I would just say that that was your opinion of me. You DO have a right to think,and judge people's behavior.

Lisa...

the accusations against Michael Schiavo, and the assertion by Terri's parents of her wishes, again HEARSAY